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Since the past few months, I am beginning to see a surge in user contributions to USMLEtoMD.com blogs and I'm Feeling Lucky
– yeah just like that Google button! ;-) Since the generous gal contributor to this great article preferred anonymity, lets call our lady Madam-X.
Note: An US Elective (also called a Clerkship) is a medical / surgical rotation option ONLY OPEN for current Medical school Students in their final clinical internship year. Students who have already graduated from medical schools cannot avail this option - they must look for Observerships / externships instead
The Following is her personal experience on how she went about applying for electives / clerkships in US Medical Schools and tips to fellow aspirants. Read on...
"How I secured my Elective in US Medical School" - an experience of a Foreign Medical Student (MBBS)
Step 1: Gathering Information
I came to know about this electives stuff through a friend, who was applying for the same. He mailed to me a list of medical schools where electives are open for international students.
They are mostly already listed on Digitaldoc’s USCE list Blog. I also searched for them via Google by typing various words like visiting students, electives, clerkships for foreign medical students and so on.
Step 2: Collecting Eligibility Criteria
I had to search all these sites and laboriously make a list of their eligibility requirements, the documents required for the application process etc.
- All the websites had a complete and proper description of the exact documents required about their precise selection and eligibility criteria and these differ from program to program. For example, some like mayo Medical School and UT southwestern will require you to pass the USMLE step 1 before the electives begin – while others do not.
- Most of them have similar eligibility requirements like you must have finished your core medical school clerkships – i.e. the ones that we do during our own medical school rotations.
- You must be in your final year i.e. you must be within the last year for graduation, which in India implies that you are an ‘intern’
Step 3: Collecting Information on Documents Required
Again, each individual program website provides a definite list but the common ones are:
- Completed specific application form for each medical school u apply to. This can be downloaded from the Internet in most cases. In that form, you fill your elective choices in descending preferences. They may ask for three or more but you may fill out more to increase your chance of getting an elective
- Resume and its supporting documents
- Medical school transcripts and hour certificate
- Letter from dean of your medical school stating that you are a student in good standing, your graduation date, and that u are allowed to do the elective, along with some other qualities of yours as well as the medical school. In my school, since I was the first one applying for electives so it was hard to convince my Dean that such electives can be done. You may have to obtain No-Objection Certificate (NOC) from your University in such cases, as I did. But if your dean is convinced then no problem will arise.
- Next you need Letters of Recommendation from the Department chair of the field you are applying for electives in
- Full immunization records and proof of immunity by showing antibody titers against Hepatitis B, Measles, Mumps and Rubella. These tests are a bit costly and not available in small towns so be prepared for getting them done early.
- Proof of Health insurance in some cases.
- Some US Medical schools will also require proof of malpractice coverage too which I could not get. If you can get that then a host of schools may be open for you !
Other requirements vary from school to school.
Step 4: Application Fee
Some schools have application fees which need to be sent along with the application packet in the form of draft in US Dollars. Now, most schools have a single fee requirement for 2 electives but some will require you to send two application fees for 2 electives.
Step 5: Mailing out the Application Package
Each medical school site will provides an email correspondence contact who you can ask your queries, they are very quick and informative in their replies and reliable too, than most other people. Send the application packets to the addresses mentioned in the specific application form.
Step 6: Communicating
After about a week, it is a good idea to write an email to the person at the registrar's office (it will be mentioned on the form or the website), that u sent the application packet. Request for acknowledgment of the same and also ask about when can u expect a reply on the status of your application. Some schools reply about the status in a month or two. rest do it only one to two months before your scheduled date of arrival.
Step 7: The Hurrays, Cheers and Visas
Once you are placed for the elective in the medical school, they will ask you for further documents according to the visa they sponsor. It may be J1 or F1 and some instances the visitors visa too. J1 visa in these cases may not be free from the 2 - Year Home country residence requirement rule, so do look into that carefully before you accept.
My Two Cents:
The key to get selected is to act fast . I sent my applications 7 months before my elective start date. This way u can assure that seats are not filled out.Then send in all the documents at the very start so your application is not incomplete ans thirdly fill out choices using your brains. As US students are pref. if u fill out choices they like u have less chances, just like match u know. That’s all I had to say about the elective application process. Hope this helps. God Bless"
*****************
Wow ! Did she say, “That’s all” – I thought this WAS ALL ! Very well written and structured. Thank you ...
I am also hoping she provides us with her with experience and tips DURING her electives, but lets not get ahead of ourselves and wait for Ma’am-X to complete the rotations first..right
:-)
Google keywords to this blog post:
- "how to apply for electives"
- "how to apply for clinical clerkships in america"
Note: An US Elective (also called a Clerkship) is a medical / surgical rotation option ONLY OPEN for current Medical school Students in their final clinical internship year. Students who have already graduated from medical schools cannot avail this option - they must look for Observerships / externships instead
The Following is her personal experience on how she went about applying for electives / clerkships in US Medical Schools and tips to fellow aspirants. Read on...
"How I secured my Elective in US Medical School" - an experience of a Foreign Medical Student (MBBS)
Step 1: Gathering Information
I came to know about this electives stuff through a friend, who was applying for the same. He mailed to me a list of medical schools where electives are open for international students.
They are mostly already listed on Digitaldoc’s USCE list Blog. I also searched for them via Google by typing various words like visiting students, electives, clerkships for foreign medical students and so on.
Step 2: Collecting Eligibility Criteria
I had to search all these sites and laboriously make a list of their eligibility requirements, the documents required for the application process etc.
- All the websites had a complete and proper description of the exact documents required about their precise selection and eligibility criteria and these differ from program to program. For example, some like mayo Medical School and UT southwestern will require you to pass the USMLE step 1 before the electives begin – while others do not.
- Most of them have similar eligibility requirements like you must have finished your core medical school clerkships – i.e. the ones that we do during our own medical school rotations.
- You must be in your final year i.e. you must be within the last year for graduation, which in India implies that you are an ‘intern’
Step 3: Collecting Information on Documents Required
Again, each individual program website provides a definite list but the common ones are:
- Completed specific application form for each medical school u apply to. This can be downloaded from the Internet in most cases. In that form, you fill your elective choices in descending preferences. They may ask for three or more but you may fill out more to increase your chance of getting an elective
- Resume and its supporting documents
- Medical school transcripts and hour certificate
- Letter from dean of your medical school stating that you are a student in good standing, your graduation date, and that u are allowed to do the elective, along with some other qualities of yours as well as the medical school. In my school, since I was the first one applying for electives so it was hard to convince my Dean that such electives can be done. You may have to obtain No-Objection Certificate (NOC) from your University in such cases, as I did. But if your dean is convinced then no problem will arise.
- Next you need Letters of Recommendation from the Department chair of the field you are applying for electives in
- Full immunization records and proof of immunity by showing antibody titers against Hepatitis B, Measles, Mumps and Rubella. These tests are a bit costly and not available in small towns so be prepared for getting them done early.
- Proof of Health insurance in some cases.
- Some US Medical schools will also require proof of malpractice coverage too which I could not get. If you can get that then a host of schools may be open for you !
Other requirements vary from school to school.
Step 4: Application Fee
Some schools have application fees which need to be sent along with the application packet in the form of draft in US Dollars. Now, most schools have a single fee requirement for 2 electives but some will require you to send two application fees for 2 electives.
Step 5: Mailing out the Application Package
Each medical school site will provides an email correspondence contact who you can ask your queries, they are very quick and informative in their replies and reliable too, than most other people. Send the application packets to the addresses mentioned in the specific application form.
Step 6: Communicating
After about a week, it is a good idea to write an email to the person at the registrar's office (it will be mentioned on the form or the website), that u sent the application packet. Request for acknowledgment of the same and also ask about when can u expect a reply on the status of your application. Some schools reply about the status in a month or two. rest do it only one to two months before your scheduled date of arrival.
Step 7: The Hurrays, Cheers and Visas
Once you are placed for the elective in the medical school, they will ask you for further documents according to the visa they sponsor. It may be J1 or F1 and some instances the visitors visa too. J1 visa in these cases may not be free from the 2 - Year Home country residence requirement rule, so do look into that carefully before you accept.
My Two Cents:
The key to get selected is to act fast . I sent my applications 7 months before my elective start date. This way u can assure that seats are not filled out.Then send in all the documents at the very start so your application is not incomplete ans thirdly fill out choices using your brains. As US students are pref. if u fill out choices they like u have less chances, just like match u know. That’s all I had to say about the elective application process. Hope this helps. God Bless"
*****************
Wow ! Did she say, “That’s all” – I thought this WAS ALL ! Very well written and structured. Thank you ...
I am also hoping she provides us with her with experience and tips DURING her electives, but lets not get ahead of ourselves and wait for Ma’am-X to complete the rotations first..right
:-)
Google keywords to this blog post:
- "how to apply for electives"
- "how to apply for clinical clerkships in america"
Labels: Clerkships, Electives





10 Comments:
Pournima said...
Hi. That surely is a great info. But i am already a medical graduate and i am having hard time looking for externship/observership as they require criteria of "you must be a medical student and not graduate" which is bad in my case.
7:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Hi Digidoc n Madam X!
I would like to know if Final Year implies 'Intership' in India??
I was hoping to apply for the electives in the 4th year (Final).. Is it possible?? IF yes.. Could u pls tell which univ can i apply to?
Would be glad if u could help me out on this.. Thanks..
11:42 PM
Digitaldoc, MD said...
Yes, electives may be in fact easier to secure since they are formally established programs in most cases
Yes - 4th year implies internship year. you will find the univs on the state-wise listings on this blog . write to all of them to improve your chances of landing one
12:01 AM
Harshz said...
hey..great advice thanks a lot,,,
i am currently starting prep for usmle step 1 and my internship (in bombay india) will begin from the month of may/june
when is the right time to apply for electives....? is it the same as doing an externship?
thanks a lot...and digital doc.....great great blog!
thanks
Harsh
8:34 AM
Anonymous said...
I too have the same problem as Poornima. I am a medical graduate and am in search of an externship somewhere and anywhere in the us. Most of the universities that i contacted told me that they only give out electives to 3rd an 4th yr medical students. Any advice on how we can acquire clinical experience being graduates?
10:01 AM
Anonymous said...
i am confused! when one get to do electives?? during the 4th year or during internship?? can digidoc pls give details on this..
6:02 AM
Digitaldoc, MD said...
4th Year as 4th Academic year - not the calendar Year. My Medical School was was structured like this :
1st,2nd,3rd Academic Year = 1.5 Calendar Years each = Total 4.5 Calendar years
4th Academic year (internship) = 1 Calendar year - and thats the time I have known people to do electives in US
Which brought the total to 5.5 Calendar years even though there were only 4 academic years.
10:02 AM
Anonymous said...
I'm doing my internship in Mumbai. However, I don't think the dean of my college would ever sign a letter allowing me to do an elective abroad. Does anyone know if the MUHS university would issue an NOC and if so, how do i go about it?
7:40 AM
Digitaldoc, MD said...
When you approach your dean, take a print-out of electives information off the websites of some famous universities that offer electives - that might help.
1:09 PM
Anonymous said...
hii... i m doin internship frm pune... can anyone suggest the criteria to apply for electives as regads the internship as well asthe five year bond tht we stand... any info regarding the muhs stand in this issue....
9:23 AM
anand said...
hi,
i wanted to know whether we get
stipend during this clerkship
thank u fr the above info
1:46 PM
abdur said...
hi madam x and digi doc
great job..thanks for the info
i had approached my dean and he is not co operating,i can get a noc from the university though.what to do..
also plz tell me how to get the malpractice insurance in india..do i have to approach insurance companies..
1:07 PM
Anonymous said...
Hi..
i m doing my internship from delhi n my Principal is not aware of externship so wat should i do?my college comes under delhi university so plz tell me how do i get a no objection certificate?
The BIGGEST problem for me to apply for externship is,wat elective should i choose which wud be available easily...its bad but still im not sure in wat i wud like to do my residency...i do like medicine but then medicine is the most wanted in US so wud i get a clerkship in that?
for last 3 months i had been doing wat ma,m x did n only today i got to know about this blog...im suprised!!!!
Im desperate to get atleast once clerkship....plz help
4:26 AM
Ruchi said...
hey there!!thanx digi doc for the info....I'm in my 4th year (internship) ..and am planning to do an elective posting from california....wat is this california letter all about? and wud it be easy to egta residency there?
3:49 PM
Digitaldoc, MD said...
Answer 1: I am not sure about how the documents would work from Pune - the bond thing will not apply for clerkships, since you are still in medical school
Answer 2: You will not have stipends during clerkships, some paids exist, but are for american medical school students only
Answer 3: To Abdur = You can get a NOC from the University. Try to secure an admit and then show that to your dean, that may work better than asking even before you get an admit. I shall find out about malpractice insurance from madam-x
Asnwer 4: Apply and secure your elective first, and then show the admit from the US University. that may work better for your dean. No Objection Certificate procedures are different for different Univs, call up the univ. registar's office to find out. Internal Medicine clerkships are not tough, the other specialties are tougher.
You will need to keep trying everywhere, even the ones's in Canada, coz. that experience is also useful - shall put up a list of Canadian electives for International students too
Answer 5: To Ruchi - Read ABout the California Letter Here
4:19 PM
anya said...
hii..thanx a lot 4 a very informative site...
my prob is that ive done my mbbs 4m a college n now am doin my internship in another..so plz tell me whom shud i take an noc 4m??..n vl this b a prob??...n plz explain abt the insurance thing..i dnt get that..thanx
6:09 AM
priyanka said...
hw r these electives useful?
11:00 AM
dipsite--Rxpg said...
Hi
I am a medical undergraduate from Maharashtra. my state has a bond of 2 lakh. I can't leave India without paying this amount. Ideally this bond shouldn't apply for clerkships but who will make my college authorities understand.
Anyone from state of Maharashtra here facing the same problem??
Please help me out..
dipsite
9:56 AM
Digitaldoc, MD said...
To Anya: NOC should ideally come from the institute that will grant you the degree.
Tp Priyanka: US CLinical experience and US Letters of REcommendation are often on the criteria list of residency programs to screen applicants for interviews.
To dipsite: Many colleges now provide transcripts and document verification only if you pay the bond - so, if not now, it might need to be paid later.
11:46 AM
dipsite said...
Yes usmletomd.com the same thingy happens with my college. They don't verify certificates and issue transcripts unless and until that bond money is coughed up.
You said it right :- If not now, I will have to shell out later.
cheers!!
dipsite-rxpg
1:01 PM
adityah said...
i am getting answers to all my Qs. i just have to find them!!!!!!
11:31 AM
Digitaldoc, MD said...
Thats great- I am still trying to have a better custom search box for this site - the blog-search widget did not work well and I removed it
10:42 PM
Anonymous said...
Hi digital doc,
When i was in india i heard about splitting the internship. People from medical colleges of delhi i heard had this option. It would be great if u would be able to shed more light on it.
10:39 PM
khushboo said...
i have to apply 4 a ny med college,
have to write an infomal application,
wat all should i include?
8:45 PM
khushboo said...
i am applyin for clerkship in ny,wanted to knw hoe to erite an informal application for it
8:48 PM
Digitaldoc, MD said...
Internship splitting: IF the medical school agrees, you can do upto 3 months of your regular internship elsewhere like another medical school including a clerkship in the USA - thats wut I knew some people did long back
To Khushboo:
They should have listed on their site all required documents - include those with a Resume, a cover letter explaining your current status and why you are interested in their electives. Also include a short essay (600 words) explaining your interest in medicine, your goals and how your experiences in medical school have shaped your future goals.
Include all this in a neat plastic folder with a 'table of contents' page and then placing your cover letter first, then resume, then the essay and then the required documents.
3:09 PM
my problem is that i will be completing my internship in feb.so externship is not for me. what else can be done for us clinical experience.what about observership?
If you graduate, then electives are not for you, externships and observerships are - read here about applying to observerships
digidoc! u rock! =)
i jst cant tell u how much i appreciate the work u r doin!
this post is awesome.
i jst need to kno one thing....
where is ur USCE list blog that has
list of medical schools where electives are open for international students.
thank you
That would be this blog itself - just follow the links on the right side bar, state-wise !
How's a clerkship different from an elective? I am from India and in my 3rd academic year at present.(Pre-final year). Can I do a clerkship in my pre-final or final(3rd academic) year?
i have no words to mention that how much info. 1 cud from this link.....thanx a ton 4 such a nice work.....my query is that..... when & atleast in how much universities i sud apply to secure ma electives in sept.2010....
To Anonysmus: An Elective is an extra clerkship rotations in which you have a choice for specialty. Core clerkships are the compulsary specialty ones you must complete to get the medical degree from your university.
To Dr. Anurag: Write to as many as you can via email, get their feedback and latest requirements, and you might yourself eligible or even financially viable for some of them...so yes, write to as many as you can to raise your chances
@digitaldoc ,
What's the right time to apply for elective : final year or internship period ? What's the criteria by which they select one for elective ?
First find out when does your own medical school allow you to do rotations elsewhere, and then earlier the better !
criteria are widely varying, some need USMLE step 1 or even 2CK scores, others dont...so do you research from individual program links on this site and start compiling your own info !
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