Specifying Desired Visa on ERAS Application: H1b ? J1 ? Or Both ?

It's been an awfully long time since my last post on Tips4Match Blog and it's time to rekindle the flame here.
Well...like I probably have written elsewhere on one of my too-many blogs [seriously, am losing count! ] - having excessive choices make our life miserable, coz' each choice has it's own 'opportunity cost' - that is, the price you pay for missing out on the benefits of other choices when you finally make a choice. Unless, you could simply select all and still be right ;-)
When you be fill out the Common Application Form(CAF) while applying for residencies through ERAS, visa-needing IMGs are required to specify their visa preferences: H1b or J1 or Both
Here are some thoughts on why I feel you should select both:
1. Given the increasing competition, wisdom suggests that its best to keep your application less restrictive so that it flows through the initial screening sieves that residency program directors use for incoming applications. An old medical school friend visited me as she was interviewing for fellowships - she mentioned that the biggest regret she had was restricting her visa choices to 'H1b visa only' when she had applied, coz' that seriously brought down the number of programs that called her for interviews.
2. Being open to both visa types is especially advisable for IMGs applying for the primary care specialties where J1-waiver job opportunities are good: Family Practice, Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, Psychiatry Obstetrics-Gynecology and General Surgery. This does not mean other specialties will not have J1-waiver jobs, only lesser and may need early searching, but then the number of IMGs getting in those specialties are fewer too.
Recently on a AMA News article concerning J1-Waiver physician supply, Texas Dept. of Health Primary Care Office reported that a total of about 896 physicians received J1-waiver jobs in 2005 and considering that the Conrad 30 program alone allows 30 J1-waiver jobs in each of the 50 US states, we got a lot of unused potential J1-waiver positions. Of course, it's not that mathematically easy to land a waiver job, but not impossible if you use the right strategies (shall put that up later).
[ To refresh your memory - Read about the types of agencies that sponsor J1-waiver jobs for IMGs]
3. There is a palpable positive change in the outlook of IMGs towards taking up J1-visa Residencies :
a. Some very good residency programs offer J1 visas only
b. Fellowship options are certainly more and better on J1 than H1b
c. And yeah - its better to have a residency than to go down trying exclusively for that H1b - he he..a retarded way of putting the same is : A J1 residency in Hand is worth 2 H1bs residencies in the bush ;-)
4. At times, programs that say they prefer J1 visas may in fact grant you an H1b visa on non-invasive, patient persuasion. In fact, I know a guy who convinced his program to change their J1 offer to a H1b visa offer AFTER the match.
[Read about how to negotiate for the H1b visa with Residency Programs]
So for what candidates is it worth it to mention only H1b as the desired visa type ? For those who plan to take up non-clinical H1b jobs in the US after residency - in areas like management, informatics, pharma companies. etc. And why would such IMGs do a residency in the first place ? Coz' having an MD in some non-clinical fields gives a great edge.
Speaking of too many choices, maybe Barry Schwartz's book "The Paradox of Choice: Why More is Less
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Labels: ERAS Applications, IMGs, Visa Issues
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Comments on "Specifying Desired Visa on ERAS Application: H1b ? J1 ? Or Both ?"
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Anonymous said ... (September 11, 2007 9:39 PM) :
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Digitaldoc, MD said ... (October 5, 2007 4:45 PM) :
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Digitaldoc, MD said ... (November 15, 2007 1:35 AM) :
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Digitaldoc, MD said ... (January 18, 2008 12:54 AM) :
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Anonymous said ... (April 11, 2008 4:42 PM) :
Post Your Comment !Anonymous said ... (May 16, 2007 6:47 AM) :
Hi Digital doc,
I want to persue IM residency and then fellowship in intervent. cardiology (not joking !!!!). Dont u think i should go 4 j1 instead of H1b considering my distant dream.
superdoc said ... (May 16, 2007 10:32 AM) :
Nice one again digidoc !
One Q , what about the scope of a waiver job after ER residency ? Easy, tough or impossible ?
Plz explain, thanks
Anonymous said ... (May 16, 2007 2:09 PM) :
hi..
a friend directed me here..
i'm interested in applying to psychiatry.. is there any way to shortlist universities offering an H1b visa for psych residency? does such a list exist already? could you please help me in this regard?
thanks
khushi
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 16, 2007 4:12 PM) :
Answer 1:
You are looking at 7 to 8 Years : 3 years IM + 3 Years Cardiology Fellowship + 1 to 2 Years Interventional. Often there is a wait for year or more for fellowships to get research work and publications done, which fellowship programs desire from candidates.
On H1B, a friend of mine took a year break after his Internal medicine residency at Baylor to study something else in UK for a year to 'reset' his H1b Clock to re-enter US for a fresh H1b with enough time for cardiology fellowship and then interventional. (he already secured cardio fellowship before leaving)
On J1 too,you could either first get your green card after residency via the waiver job process (will take 3-4 years) and then do a fellowship ..or do a fellowship on J1 and then strive for waiver jobs..now, after fellowships, waiver jobs specific to cardiology will be tough to come by and you will most likely end up doing a primary care waiver job.
Answer 2:
J1-Waiver jobs after ER will mostly be like that of an internist - but you could find more specific ones in VA hospitals, which are allowed to sponsor waiver jobs even in the densest of cities :-)
Answer 3:
I maintain such a list on my blog Here: IMG Friendly Residency Programs with Visa Information
Anonymous said ... (June 26, 2007 3:44 PM) :
Hi,you are doing an amazing job.I had a query.Is it possible to change ur program(city or state)once u have started your residency on either J1 or H1b?thanks
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (June 26, 2007 3:56 PM) :
yes - you can ..and many IMGs have..on either visas
Anonymous said ... (August 21, 2007 7:41 AM) :
I am currently on B2 visa in the US. I will marry my US citizen fiance in the next couple of months and will apply for Green Card and EAD (work permit). In "Expectied Visa" part of the CAF, should I mark J1 + H1b + Immigrant + EAD or only Immigrant + EAD? Should I explain my visa situation at the end of my personal statement as a P.S. note?
Also, since I am currently moving here to the US, but I still do not have Permanent Resident status yet, should I put my current US address as my permanent mailing address or the address from my home country (even though I am moving to the US)?
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (August 21, 2007 7:51 AM) :
If you are sure about having A green card by the time you begin the residency - Just keep it as Immigrant + EAD..that will help you get more interviews too. Mentioning J1 / H1 needed might lower chances there
Its fine to put your home country address as permanent address, since what will matter is your 'present mailing address' for correspondence. If you look at the View CAF link, you will see that both present mailing and permanent mailing address are presented on the CAF
Anonymous said ... (August 21, 2007 8:36 AM) :
Thanks Digitaldoc. Should I explain that I am on B2 currently but will apply for Green Card and EAD by marriage at the end of my personal statement as a P.S. note or just mark them on the CAF?
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (August 21, 2007 5:05 PM) :
You can tackle that issue on the Interview - all they need to see before that is that you wont need a visa for the residency :-)
Anonymous said ... (August 21, 2007 8:21 PM) :
anonymous said...
Thanks Digitaldoc. Should I explain that I am on B2 currently but will apply for Green Card and EAD by marriage at the end of my personal statement as a P.S. note or just mark them on the CAF?
August 21, 2007 8:36 AM
digitaldoc, md said...
You can tackle that issue on the Interview - all they need to see before that is that you wont need a visa for the residency :-)
Thank for your patience, digitaldoc. So just marking that in the CAF is enough then and there is no need to mention it in the personal statement.
At the time of the interview, should I tackle it if the interviewer ask me or just say it out of nowhere?
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (August 21, 2007 9:35 PM) :
only if asked
i have checked both h1 and j1 visa in expected visa status ,but what if i want to rank a program only if it gives h1.how can i find that out. after the interview are we ina position to know what visa will that program give us.is there any other way i can find that out.
Yes - You can surely bring up the visa question after the Interview in your thank you email or even after you have been offered a prematch.
How To negotiate for a H1B Visa
Hi digital doc
i am really impressed in all th work u r doing to help others. I have applied for pathology thi syear but I am not sure about J1 and h1 thing at present i am on H1 dependent visa H4 and people say it is difficult to go on j1 from H4. Also my main concern i sdo we get waiver job in pathology???
hi
i am appling for pathology and am not sure whether we get any waiver jobs in pathology and how easy is it to get them/????? please reply soon
The wait may be longer. J1-waiver jobs in Pathology are possible, but the exposure that the job offers may not be amazing and too routine.
Prefer a H1b residency, if you end up on J1, start early on your waiver-job search during residency - in fact you can contact some J1-waiver job agencies now and find out about the scene. (google them)
HELLO DIGITAL DOC
ONE QUESTION:IF I HAVE A J1 VISA IN MY FIRST YEAR OF RESIDENCY BECAUSE I DIDIN'T COMPLETE MY STEP 3 YET.CAN I ASK THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR TO SPONSOR FOR AN H1B FOR ME DURING THE SECOND YEAR?
Hi, unfortunately, once you get into clinical J1 status, you will always stay so unless you either get a waiver job or complete the 2-year home country requirement.
What happens if One gets A J1 Residency initially and then successfully applies for a different H1 b next year?
Is it possible to begin the new residency with /without the previous year considered?
Or is it totally impossible even if one is ready to repeat the previous year on new H1b program?
Some light please
Thank You
Sincerely