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Yes USMLE scores are important - but not everything for a Medical Residency in USA! To be Pre-Informed is to be In Form :-) Sharing Wisdom learned through application experience and mistakes - especially for IMGs / FMGs!

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Tuesday, September 11, 2007

How much does a Green Card / Citizenship help for A Residency?

Curious to know how a Green card looks ? Click here :-)

Well...This post is for IMGs who do not need visa sponsorship for their residencies, to see how much your green-card / citizenship status can help you to land a residency spot.


1. In a pool of IMG applications with similar competency, Program Directors always have a preference for IMGs that DO NOT need a visa. Why ? Sponsoring a visa has its hassles for residency programs and takes time to get processed. A H1b even costs the program some $$$ per resident. H1b is even more of a hassle than a J1, since J1 is 'sponsored' by the ECFMG, while the H1b needs to be sponsored by the specific residency program. Often, a residency program must comply to the University system that it is a part of, which itself may have limits and policies to go through before a visa can be sponsored. Indeed, some programs even have strict rulings from the parent university on the number of visas they are allowed to give out each year. Do note that a green card / citizenship status for a low scores compared to visa-needing IMGs with excellent scores and highly competitive profiles is no longer too attractive to residency programs that do not mind sponsoring visas- thanks to a huge deluge of the latter. Read more about the IMG flood here.
(Some resident friends tell me that after applications have been screened, at some residency programs, the print outs of the applications are arranged in three stacks: AMGs, IMGs that do not need visas and IMGs that need Visas. Best candidates from each stack are then finalized for interviews in the same order -- don't know how much verity that has, but certainly sounds feasible...)

2. A more important advantage for GC / Citizenship holders is that there are many more residency programs that they can apply to, as compared to visa-seeking IMGs, since they are in a position to apply to programs that both sponsor & do not sponsor visas. Therefore, especially if scores are on the lower side, its a logical idea to spread your risks by making sure you apply to a good number of IMG-friendly programs that DO NOT sponsor visas - such as the Palmetto Health Internal Medicine Residency Program (Columbia, South Carolina) or the Southern Illinois University Internal Medicine Residency Program

3. Residencies that need a Prelim / Transitional year residency as a requisite (Such as PMR, Radiology, etc.) are more accessible to GC / Citizenship holders since most often, programs do not sponsor visas for a single year program.


And Sure enough in a survey study published in the Journal of American Medical Association, Following was the break up of the most common immigration / status for IMGs:


  • Permanent Residents: 24.4%
  • J1 Visa IMGs: 13.9%
  • H1b Visa IMGs: 13.6%
  • Native US Citizens: 15.5 %
  • Naturalized US Citizens: 10.1%
  • F1 (OPT visa): 0.4 %
  • Others : you calculate...Jeez...enough spoon feeding ;-)



IMG-Friendly Residency Programs with Visa Sponsorship Information is being compiled at IMGfriendly.blogspot.com.

Its never too late to begin compiling your list, researching programs and contact programs near your residency to show interest in applying and then asking for observerships...is it? :-)

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Comments on "How much does a Green Card / Citizenship help for A Residency?"

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (September 11, 2007 9:45 PM) : 

Anonymous said ... (December 25, 2006 10:17 AM) :

About the three stacks at residency programs I have heard that too in many places and have first hand information regarding that. There indeed are stacks made where IMGs are divided into with visa req and without. Many directors do not even reach to the stack with visa req at least in the upper tier residency programs.


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (December 25, 2006 10:57 AM) :

:-) Thanks for the confirmation then !


Anonymous said ... (December 30, 2006 1:21 PM) :

Green card and permanent residence REALLY MATTERS.......
i can give u an example .....couple of days back at one of the interviews that i went to;one of the girls who was born and raised in US but studied Medicine in India prematched with the scores of 80-81%........:(
and candidates like me with 95+ in both steps (but requiring a visa obviously) were left shocked n depressed...:(


Anonymous said ... (July 05, 2007 1:21 PM) :

Hello, I have an EAD (also SSN) from my spouse and we are waiting for 485 approval. Is EAD considered equivelent to Green Card?

Thanks


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (July 05, 2007 4:44 PM) :

I think it does - but i assume your doubt is about filling up your status on ERAS - they have a check-box for EAD and you can fill that in :-)


Anonymous said ... (August 14, 2007 8:47 AM) :

Hi digidoc,
i am presently on L2 visa ,holding EAD valid for 4 years.I will get greencard in next 2 months.I have mentioned my status as foreign national and present status as EAD,is that fine/could i mention as permanent resident in profile?Thanx a lot


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (August 17, 2007 3:49 PM) :

The profile part of the CAF can be updated at any time, so keep it EAD and change it to green card when you get definite status change on that one ..and also email all applied programs about your visa status change, since it will certainly keep your application in a better light

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (October 2, 2007 8:52 PM) : 

does this mean img with greencard n with 90+scores can get into radiology or dermatology?

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (October 2, 2007 8:59 PM) : 

hi
please post which are img friendly residencies for greencard holders?
i am an img from india with greencard...
i want to get into ophthalmology. can i get into?or is it meant only for citizens who have done their mbbs in usa?

 

Blogger Digitaldoc, MD said ... (October 2, 2007 9:24 PM) : 

Answer 1:

In 2007, only 1 IMG got into Dermatology in the Match, while about 7 got into Radiology of which 4 were US IMGs i think (You can double check with the NRMP 2007 Data tables though) - SO it does remain tough overall for IMGs..

However, IMGs who completed residencies in Radiology in their home countries have found it easier to land direct fellowships in Radiology here in the USA



Answer 2:

For IMGs in general - the same residencies I mentioned in this post also apply to Green card holders - those are easier to GC holder than visa needing holders - but Green card holders will have added advantages in specialties that need one-year prelim or transitional residency - such as PM and R, G. Surgery, etc.

The 2007 SFMatch data indicates that 25 IMGs matched into Opthalmology out of a total of 648 Rank Order Lists Submitted. Click Here


Here's a program that looks IMG-friendly in Opthalmology

Again, direct fellowships in Opthal. after doing Opthal. residencies in your home country is another option

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (February 3, 2008 11:49 AM) : 

hi , digidoc i m from india. i will have g-card within 2 months. after that with g-card and step1 score i can apply for residncy in surgery. thanks

 

Blogger Digitaldoc, MD said ... (February 3, 2008 2:06 PM) : 

yes you can - but also to take the Step 2 CS before the end of August - like ECFMG warned about late score reporting - and if you can have Step 2 CK scores ready at the time of applying - interview chances will be more

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (February 16, 2008 11:41 AM) : 

Gr8 work dude.U just got the answer to evrything. Well,i would really appreciate if you can help me with this.Im a greencard holder and have completed my medicine in India. What other options(equally paying;-)) do i have other than USMLE. Gr8 if u include other career options.

 

Blogger veena said ... (March 7, 2008 7:24 AM) : 

hi,
you seem to be well informed on this subject and ur answers are great...
if you could give me some advice..
i am a us citizen by birth and did my medicine in india.finished step 1 and got 99.am taking cs in may. do i need to finish step 3 before applying? and am thinking of trying for radiology residency... what would be the best course and how to get externships that wud help me for that..

 

Blogger Digitaldoc, MD said ... (March 7, 2008 5:53 PM) : 

Hi veena, You would not need Step 3 before applying, though there is nothing wrong with that, but I would rather use the time before applying to get Step 1, Step 2 CK done, Step 2 CS booked early and have US clinical experience on the resume. Do look up US clinical experience opportunities on my USCE Blog

For Radiology, which is ultra-competitive, research experience in addition to US clinical experience will help too.

 

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