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Tuesday, September 11, 2007

HOSPITALS THAT OFFER OBSERVERSHIPS / EXTERNSHIPS : LIST

I would rather that you refer to my United States Clinical Experiences List Blog for the updated list of Externships , Observerships and Electives by State


Contact these early in the game - coz' slots get filled pretty fast ! Often you will need to pay them - but then ..wut the heck - if you're anyways spending 6000-7000$ who cares for an extra grand ! Some places may insist that you arrange your own Malpractice insurance, some pay arrange it for you but you gotta pay, while some places may not bother you with that all ...


Sample email to use for applying for observerships :
Click Here


Shall keep updating this list !

Points-to-Note:
1. Policies change all the time - places that offered observerships before - may not offer today, so call !
2. These places have a limit on the number of students they take - so act fast !
3. The best time to do an observership is BEFORE you apply to ERAS - how else will it show on your application ? and How else will you get those US LORs on time ? Act fast ..if you are planning the 2008 match, still act fast :-)
4. Contacts matter a lot for getting observerships / externships - use them ! Resident friends, physician relatives, MD friends of your favorite masters/phD profs. etc

OBSERVERSHIPS / EXTERNSHIPS / SUB-INTERNSHIPS / MINI-RESIDENCIES FOR IMGs:

Also Read:

- Differences between Electives, Externship and Observerships
- Rules / Policies during Observerships
- Does Clinical Experience in other countries help






The book USMLE Step 2 CS for the IMG has a good list of IMG-friendly hospitals and institutions that offer observerships ! I also heard good things about the book for Step 2 CS.




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posted by Digitaldoc, MD at 7:43 PM

Comments on "HOSPITALS THAT OFFER OBSERVERSHIPS / EXTERNSHIPS : LIST"

 

Blogger Digitaldoc, MD said ... (September 11, 2007 7:45 PM) : 

blessed_doctor said ... (December 25, 2005 10:49 AM) :

ur blog is great info 4 me...
plz do keep posting.


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (January 28, 2006 11:46 PM) :

Thanks doc !


img111 said ... (April 05, 2006 10:51 AM) :

hi,
r their any hospitals in NJ/NY area who offer observerships?


Anonymous said ... (April 05, 2006 2:04 PM) :

st.louis university, MO
michigan state university
u of miami


Anonymous said ... (May 17, 2006 9:51 AM) :

any hospitals offer obeserveships/externships (i graduated a long time ago...) in MA area?


Anonymous said ... (May 21, 2006 7:11 AM) :

do i need to pass step 2 cs to get externship


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 21, 2006 11:25 AM) :

Not needed - unless individual hospitals would prefer that...they will let you know when you apply. g/l


Anonymous said ... (May 22, 2006 7:51 AM) :

do u have any list for hospitals that offer observerships in NY/NJ/PA.by the way its nice to see your picture.finally we have a face to realte to the name ;)


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 22, 2006 2:37 PM) :

Hi .... I am not sure right now - shall put them up as soon as I get some info..

thnx for writing..


Anonymous said ... (May 23, 2006 6:08 AM) :

hiii digitaldoc,
its really a wonderful blog, so much info at one blog, thanks for all the efforts u put in to help imgs like me. can u give me some info as to wat time of the year is the best time to do these observerships? it wud be really helpful if u cud tell me how exactly shud i write an application to these hospitals, i mean the format. shud i write my med school scores, step 1 scores, my interest in a particular field or wat? im really interested in surgery, do u think its possible to get an observership in surgery? wud be really grateful to u for ur help.


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 23, 2006 8:43 PM) :

I would encourage u to do an observership before u apply ..or alteast BY the time you are applying..or if none of these can work out..atleast try to have it FIXED at the time you apply, so that you can mention it on ur ERAS application :-)

I know a dude who recently got a preliminary surgery position - and shall be featuring him and his advice on my blog shortly. keeping checking back :-)


Anonymous said ... (June 01, 2006 8:38 PM) :

hi, add 1 month formal observership at harbor hospital, baltimore, they require you to be ECFMG certified..long waiting list, all spots filled up till jan 2007 already!


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (June 02, 2006 1:11 AM) :

Thanks for SHaring buddy !..g/l to u !


Anonymous said ... (June 02, 2006 11:14 AM) :

how do u apply at these hospitals for observership.whose the rite person one should contact


Anonymous said ... (June 17, 2006 4:46 PM) :

can u list hospitals offering observership in california please thanks in advance


Anonymous said ... (June 18, 2006 9:09 AM) :

Hi DigilDoc,

Do you know of any observership/ clinical observership opportunitites in the Reno , NV area? or anything close by.

Thanks
A Friend


Anonymous said ... (June 24, 2006 1:42 AM) :

What a site!!! its excellent!!!

what about working in a private clinic under a medical practitioner ? is this good? and how long should USCE should be?minimum?


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (June 24, 2006 2:12 AM) :

Miminum time for USCE - more the better..some programs wanna see a minimum of a month, some 3 and some even 6 !! while others may say 1 year !

a private doc is still better than None...but would still recommend finding big places to do it..

g/l and thnx for ur comments :-)


Anonymous said ... (July 07, 2006 4:29 AM) :

hi everyone!
i am img i would like to know if i can apply for ob'ship as i am planning to sit for step 1 in feb 07?what are the steps i shud follow to get match in 08?
advice will be highly appreciated!
thanks buddies!


Anonymous said ... (July 08, 2006 7:50 AM) :

your site is really helpful digitaldoc!!i never wrote such email to any hospital about getting observership.so i am confused about what should be the format.can you please help me about that?
thanks.


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (July 08, 2006 12:12 PM) :

i shall put up a sample letter up :-) gimme 24 hours :-)


Anonymous said ... (July 10, 2006 9:03 AM) :

thanks for considering my request digitaldoc!!it will be a great help to me.thanks.


Anonymous said ... (July 19, 2006 7:34 PM) :

hi, do u have any feedback on Dr. Batchu's externship program? I plan to apply there, its 3T + 1T for accomodations,,,,btw, great website, thanks


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (July 20, 2006 2:05 PM) :

unfortunately I dont :-( thanks for the info..and do leave us a note after u do it . :-)


S.Khan said ... (July 22, 2006 7:24 AM) :

hey...
jst wantd 2 leave a note of appreciation...gud effort..n thanx for all the info..
tc..
:-)


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (July 22, 2006 9:41 AM) :

:-) :-) Thanx for the kind comments !


Hashim said ... (July 22, 2006 1:41 PM) :

how abt those with no usce but high scores looking for moderate ranking univ programms to offer prematch(Like myself)plz name a few of such progarms digidoc


Anonymous said ... (July 25, 2006 8:30 PM) :

I'm interested to get USCE in seattle,WA area...can u give any suggestion


Anonymous said ... (July 29, 2006 12:31 PM) :

hi digidoc..
i wanted to knw tht do you need to get a UCSE at a university hospital or a place tht offers residency or is it as good as doing it at any hospital..
also is research better or is it externhip thts better


Anonymous said ... (August 03, 2006 11:10 PM) :

Hi Everyone,

I am probably starting late in the game, but is it too late for getting some UCCE or atleast an observership?

Can you please suggest any hospitals that offer observerships around Mass? Thank you in advance.

Doc,
Thanx for doing such a wonderful public service. Very useful site for people like me.

Regards!!


S.Khan said ... (August 06, 2006 6:27 AM) :

hi doc..
i need to have a copy of a sample LOR and Dean's letter to have an idea of how it shd look like as my school ppl want me 2 write it..but ofcourse they will b signing it..
could u kindly send me a copy of urs?
plz email me at the_best_23_2000@yahoo.com

or post it here..as u like..
i shall b thankful.


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (August 06, 2006 12:31 PM) :

Hi dude...both formats are already posted on this blog - check out the links on the rt. side-bar

:-)


S.Khan said ... (August 11, 2006 6:52 AM) :

hello...
yea i found them...thnx.
:-)


S.khan said ... (August 16, 2006 2:50 AM) :

hi..
i am trying to apply fr clinical electives in USA during my final yr.can u plz tell me if its really useful and worth all the effort?

and shd i apply to different universities for 2 courses or do it in the same uni...plz guide..
thank u


Anonymous said ... (August 16, 2006 8:41 PM) :

Hi,
I am doing an observership at present for a month.Should i state is as an CLINICAL EXPERIENCE or as VOLUNTEER EXPERIENCE.


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (August 17, 2006 3:12 PM) :

surely worth the effort and $$ spent ! coz besides the experience you also will get good US LORs...!!

Different specialties - yeah you can apply ..even in the same university - but that could be a risk if you are applying for totally opposite specialties ..like surgery and medicine , etc.


s.khan said ... (August 24, 2006 7:16 AM) :

hi..
how abt doing a clinical elective in internal medicine at a research centre's hospital?is it goood enough like the ones taken at university hospitals/medical schools?which one wld be better?


Anonymous said ... (August 29, 2006 10:21 AM) :

Hi Digital doc,
Thanks for such an awesome blog!!!I have a quick question. Since, I am doing a masters out here, I didnt have the time for university USCE, so i opted to shadow a private practioner at his clinics on weekends. How do i put this in my ERAS application?? DO i mention it as observership or what..am kinda confused???

any help will be greatly appreciated...


Anonymous said ... (September 02, 2006 1:40 PM) :

Hi Digi-doc,

I have completed 4 months of observerships in an IM program (may/may not be offering any more obs now...), which is my 1st choice specialty and program. Its a very comp program, but was wondering, if i can/should do any more obs in IM, and what about doing obs in other "backup" specialties, ie. FM, Psych, OB/Gyn, etc., to which im applying to, as well, in addition to IM?...


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (September 02, 2006 1:58 PM) :

If IM is what you want, try in IM first, or else FP observership would also work for IM programs...


Anonymous said ... (September 08, 2006 7:25 PM) :

hey some places require ecfmg certificate for doing an observership!!....


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (September 08, 2006 8:49 PM) :

And about mentioning Observerships on ur ERAS Application - list them as "Work Experience" - in fact within the application itself, u will see an instruction in that section which asks you to mention clinical experience as work experience


About ECFMG Certification for Observerships - yeah, I have covered that in the "Types of USCE" section


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (September 09, 2006 1:34 AM) :

Regarding S.khan's Q about Clinical Electives in a research center - any clinical elective is great in a well-known US institution !


Anonymous said ... (September 20, 2006 5:15 PM) :

Hi digidoc
Can you please tell some places in CA( The S.F. / bay area ) which offer externship or obsevership.
Thanks a lot for your help.


Anonymous said ... (October 18, 2006 3:48 PM) :

hi digidoc,
I have passed step 1 and 2 ck, but unfortunately failed cs,pl advice will this lower my chances of getting interview..... what if i retake cs within a few days and clear it........will it still be a negative point for me.and also pl give me list of colleges offering observership in DC, virginia area.......thanks


Anonymous said ... (November 03, 2006 6:49 AM) :

dear digidoc,
i am terrribly confused..giving my step 2 in march/april..and plan top stay back for observership till my results are out..don't know where and how to begin. do u have any list of hospitals in newyork which offer free observership to IMG.i am currently doing voluntary medical social work too. do i apply now? have scored 88 in step 1.
please guide me...i would be truely greatful.
thanking you


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (November 03, 2006 12:18 PM) :

Hi people...


Answer 1: CA is generally tougher for observerships , as i hear. if meeting faculty wont help, last option is to go thru gmcgroup.org

Answer 2: Do retake ur CS at the earliest date u can ..and possibly at the same center, coz its highly likely the cases wont change. i am trying to compile as many places for observership as i can - unfortunately there is no 'IMG-friendly' observership list, its based on past history and thru friends :-)

Answer 3: Beging to look around for observerships now - there is really no formal process, its writing emails to faculty from surrounding hospitals and asking if u can meet them about their research work ..and then also bringing out the topic of a possible observership when u meet up with them ..

but rule number - dont mess up USMLE scores...those come first !


Anonymous said ... (November 03, 2006 12:57 PM) :

Hi digitaldoc,

Thanks for this awesome post..

Could you or anyone of your site's fans provide me any info on Observerships in Los Angeles and around..?
PLz..any response will be of great help..
Thanks....


Anonymous said ... (November 10, 2006 8:57 PM) :

hi digitaldoc..this is a very helpful blog...
i wanted to ask u if observerships in canadian hositals might help for residency application in US??...im an IMG;currently in toronto;preparing for my USMLEs;going in for the 2008 match...THANX..


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (November 10, 2006 11:09 PM) :

LA observership hospitals anyone ?


Canadian Hospital observerships sure will be good too - but pray dont let that hamper ur USMLE prep - scores are king...


Anonymous said ... (December 27, 2006 5:54 PM) :

Hi doc...i really appreciate what u have been doing...it has been of great help!a lot of questions have been answered..if u cud put up a sample letter of how to apply for an observership,it wud be of great help..thanks a bunch


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (December 27, 2006 6:08 PM) :

its already put up on this blog under under the topic "applying for observerships" - i have now included a link to that post on this article..thanks


Anonymous said ... (January 27, 2007 12:45 PM) :

Hello Digital Doc,

This year I had few resdiency interviews. My more intrest is in internal medicine but I did got one resdiency interview for the preliminary position in surgery. Now I have got an offer from the same surgical program for an externship. Is doing an externship in the month of feburaay help me in getting a residency. I am thinking whether to join the externship or not. Will it help me in getting a higher position in the Rank Order list

Thanks


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (January 27, 2007 5:15 PM) :

being after an externship after a interview is good news about real interest in you - that externship will not only be used to evaluate you, but also to give you a head start into their program before residency begins..


Anonymous said ... (February 19, 2007 8:05 AM) :

hello digitaldoc

this is a great blog.
i came to know from your blog about surgery sub-internship at uni. og washington.
can you give me more information about it.
they say this is for those who are interested in surgery prilim at their uni. but what if i also want to apply at other places .will i get recco. letteres.

please guide me.


Anonymous said ... (March 19, 2007 11:11 AM) :

I am interested in research in US. I wanted to ask that are there specific research programs where you can apply just like clinical elective programs or else you have to visit each hospitals website and email them requesting for research. if there are any programs please post them .. thanks


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (March 23, 2007 2:01 PM) :

Answer 1: yes they will give you reco letters, since they too know that they wont be able to absorb everyone that does it at their place.


Answer 2: Thankx dude for the suggestion. I have been wanting to put up a research places list since a long time, just have not found time. I assure you I will get on to it very soon.


Anonymous said ... (April 25, 2007 9:47 AM) :

Hey its a great website. I have been able to find all the things I wanted to know about USMLE. Keep up the good work. I am in final year rite now and i am planning to do 9 months clinical electives and I have applied at vaious places for that. I wanted to ask what will look better in an application "9 months clinical experience" or "6 months clinical experience plus 3 months research experience".


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (April 25, 2007 3:25 PM) :

Research experience is worth it if you can get some publications out of it, which is unlikely for 3 months time - or a big shot place like Johns Hopkins or a big name in the field - if that cannot work out, then 3 months more of electives is what I would do..


Anonymous said ... (May 14, 2007 9:17 PM) :

Hello.

Can you post the List of Hospitals
that offer Regidency?
(If possible, by state.)

Also, list of hospitals that don't offer Regidency?

It will be a great help.
Thank you.


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 14, 2007 10:34 PM) :

Hi - am already maintaining such a list at IMG Friendly Residency Programs Blog


Anonymous said ... (May 15, 2007 7:41 PM) :

Thank you, Digitaldoc.

Then, what about the list of hospitals that don't offer Residency?

Do you have any idea of where that information is at?

Thank you.


saamya said ... (June 26, 2007 3:21 PM) :

hi doc
all the info uve put up here has been a gr8 help..i hv applied at various places for observership for nxt yr ..i was wondering if i gt it in more than one place can i decline the position??


Digitaldoc, MD said ... (June 26, 2007 4:00 PM) :

Answer 1: For all hospitals, look up the free American hospital directory

Answer 2: Yes, you can !

 

Blogger nitin said ... (November 5, 2007 7:19 PM) : 

Hi I am doiong masters in public health in NIU in dekalb. I have not yet taken my step 1 amplanning to atk it in jn 2008. I know a psychiatrist who stays near the campus. He works in a non teaching hospital. My question is can i do observorship or externship under him without completing my step 1and give my step 1 after completing observorship. Please do reply at the earliest.

 

Blogger Digitaldoc, MD said ... (November 6, 2007 12:14 AM) : 

There are no official national rules for observerships - they are informal positions - which may be made into official programs at some universities. Often some physicians will allow you to do so, provided the facility they work at has no problems. So talk to him and see what he/she says - USMLE may not be needed

g/l

 

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