FELLOWSHIP WITHOUT / BEFORE RESIDENCY : PART 2
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And since this blog is about helping Medical grads explore all possibilities & opportunities into the medical practice scene in the US, I thought I might just mention it.... Awwrity then ! Enough of trying to set up the mood, let's look at the Fellowship entrance scene for IMGs in USA a little more closely....
Do you need to take USMLE Steps for direct fellowships ?
One of the first questions that IMGs ask and hope to hear a "No" is: Is taking USMLE Steps needed to do clinical fellowships in USA without a US Residency ? Unfortunately, the answer is a "Yes" and in fact, IMGs need to be ECFMG Certified before beginning any clinical or clinical-research fellowship.
So how do you apply to such positions ?
- The NRMP Fellowship Match. As the NRMP Fellowship site says: "Applicants who have not completed prerequisite training in an accredited ACGME program in the U.S., or a similar program in Canada accredited by the Royal Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada, must be certified by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG)". Note that this is is a pretty tough pathway for IMGs without a American Residency.
- Looking at unfilled positions after the Match. It's a good idea to begin a dialogue with fellowship program directors by contacting via email or phone and expressing an interest and making inquiries about whether your home-country residency is recognized. Start with programs hosted by places that are known to be IMG friendly to gather information about their requirements and your eligibility.
Eligibility:
You should have completed a 'approved residency' in their home countries (MD / MS or other post-graduate medical / surgical degree that are recognized in the US) and should be ECFMG certified by the time of starting the fellowship.
Some Examples of eligibility criteria:
Total Joint and Adult Reconstructive Fellowship for International Physicians at Stanford:-
"Eligible orthopaedic surgeons will have recently completed their orthopedic training, be board certified in their home country and hold junior academic teaching positions at their home institutions."
Cardiothoracic Surgery Fellowship at Baylor College of Medicine:-
"Applicants for the program must have completed an approved residency in General Surgery within either the United States or their home country by the time they are to enter the program."
Breast Imaging Fellowship at University of Washington at Seattle:
"Radiology Board certification in your home country, Washington State Medical License and an Approved work visa"
Note: Interested IMGs should take note that the above program also offers observerships called 'mini-fellowships' for a fee - information on this is present on the same link provided above.
The Prestigious Washington University at St. Louis, Missouri, is also known to offer Radiology fellowships to IMGs directly without residencies.
Update: I just heard about a dude getting a direct Cardiovascular Imaging Fellowship at the Cleveland Clinic - ofcourse he had 99/99s and did a Radiology residency from one of the top places in India.
What after completing the fellowship without residency? Can you practice like other 'regular' docs ? Do you still need to do a Residency ?
I fancy imagining the Residency-Fellowship system like a tunnel with two inlets - the Residency entrance and the Fellowship entrance. And this is a tunnel with a difference : After taking the Residency route, you may exit mid-way and get yourself a good job, but if you take the Fellowship entrance, the mid-way exit in this case leads back to your home-country or rarely, some limited license, low-paying jobs in underserved areas. But yes, you may either continue forwards towards the Residency side or get back onto the Fellowship side to do another fellowship.
Why so from the Fellowship entrance ? Because, Almost all physician jobs need you to be 'Board Certified' - or at least 'Board Eligible'. A Fellowship without a residency does not grant you Board Certification - Nor does it grant you Board Eligibility in the specialty.
Here's how the normal route to Board Certification works for IMGs :
Medical School --> USMLE Steps --> ECFMG Certification for IMGs --> Limited / Restricted practice License (Residency) --> Step 3 --> Unrestricted State License --> 'Board Eligible' --> Take Board Exams --> 'Board Certified' --> Fellowship / Sub-specialty training --> Sub-specialty certified
Thus, in the American System, the Physicians who complete all requirements for board certification except the Board examination may be identified as "board-eligible." Do note that the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS) has officially scrapped the term "Board Eligible" - but job advertisements continue to use the term.
If you were to search for specialist jobs in physician career sites or sites like Monster.com, careerbuilder.com, you will read job requirements like these samples I came across:
"Sioux Valley Health System is looking for BC/BE physicians in primary care and various subspecialties to practice in rural and metro practice locations" - BC/BE = Board Certified / Board Eligible
"Lehigh Valley Hospital, a premier academic community hospital in southeastern Pennsylvania seeks a BC/BE oncologist for a superb, expanding group practice"
"Mayo Clinic is expanding its cardiology practice in Jacksonville, Florida, and is seeking board-certified/board-eligible cardiologists in three subspecialties"
" The Department of Radiology at Boston Medical Center has an opening for a board certified breast imaging radiologist."
"American Clinical Resources, ACR, has an excellent opportunity for a Locums Radiologist to help our nation’s military at Oak Harbor Naval Hospital while enjoying the great outdoors in beautiful Washington. Earn 225$/Hour. Requirements - Board Certified or Board Eligible, WA State License, BLS"
"Explore the possibilities at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center, a primary care medical center in Erie, Pennsylvania. Full-time Urologist position is available in our Surgical Care Program.Board certification in Urology or board eligible within four years of residency or fellowship is a requirement for this position."
In short, a residency is pretty much unavoidable if wish to continue staying in the USA and get good academic or other employment positions. The bright side of this is that US-Fellowship trained IMGs may stand a better chance at the corresponding residencies than fresh IMGs without US clinical Experience - often in the same place they did their fellowships at. The dark side of doing a residency after the fellowship, if I dare call it so, is that you might experience a 'boss-reversal' ;-) i.e. The guys who worked 'under' you as residents may become fellows at the same program while you become a resident there.
Take home points:-
1. Direct Fellowships without Residency in USA is possible for IMGs
2. Such positions are best sought by directly contacting fellowship program directors and beginning a dialogue.
3. IMGs must have completed post-graduate medicine / surgery in home-countries.
4. IMGs must have finished USMLE steps and should have obtained ECFMG certification before starting fellowship
5. Job Opportunities in USA are highly limited after fellowships without residency, if any - A residency must still be done to be board certified and eligible for well-paying jobs.
6. It's a great option for IMGs who wish to go back to home countries after the fellowship.
7. Fellowship directors like research and US clinical experience (observerships, externships, etc. ) - try to have that on your resume !
IMGs are known to secure Radiology, Ophthalmology and Orthopedic Fellowship along this route on both J1 and H1 visas (J1s preferred by programs)
Check out this list of Fellows at the University Iowa Health Care Ophthalmology Fellowship programs - you do see some profiles of IMGs who came for direct fellowships
Disclaimer: This topic is wrought by fuzziness, inconsistencies and lack of enough experiences. I may be wrong in some areas and I welcome corrections from readers with first-hand experiences or knowledge. Which also means that the content of this post may change periodically :-)
"One of the core tenets of survival is to be open to every single opportunity".
And since this blog is about helping Medical grads explore all possibilities & opportunities into the medical practice scene in the US, I thought I might just mention it.... Awwrity then ! Enough of trying to set up the mood, let's look at the Fellowship entrance scene for IMGs in USA a little more closely....
Do you need to take USMLE Steps for direct fellowships ?
One of the first questions that IMGs ask and hope to hear a "No" is: Is taking USMLE Steps needed to do clinical fellowships in USA without a US Residency ? Unfortunately, the answer is a "Yes" and in fact, IMGs need to be ECFMG Certified before beginning any clinical or clinical-research fellowship.
So how do you apply to such positions ?
- The NRMP Fellowship Match. As the NRMP Fellowship site says: "Applicants who have not completed prerequisite training in an accredited ACGME program in the U.S., or a similar program in Canada accredited by the Royal Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada, must be certified by the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG)". Note that this is is a pretty tough pathway for IMGs without a American Residency.
- Looking at unfilled positions after the Match. It's a good idea to begin a dialogue with fellowship program directors by contacting via email or phone and expressing an interest and making inquiries about whether your home-country residency is recognized. Start with programs hosted by places that are known to be IMG friendly to gather information about their requirements and your eligibility.
Eligibility:
You should have completed a 'approved residency' in their home countries (MD / MS or other post-graduate medical / surgical degree that are recognized in the US) and should be ECFMG certified by the time of starting the fellowship.
Some Examples of eligibility criteria:
Total Joint and Adult Reconstructive Fellowship for International Physicians at Stanford:-
"Eligible orthopaedic surgeons will have recently completed their orthopedic training, be board certified in their home country and hold junior academic teaching positions at their home institutions."
Cardiothoracic Surgery Fellowship at Baylor College of Medicine:-
"Applicants for the program must have completed an approved residency in General Surgery within either the United States or their home country by the time they are to enter the program."
Breast Imaging Fellowship at University of Washington at Seattle:
"Radiology Board certification in your home country, Washington State Medical License and an Approved work visa"
Note: Interested IMGs should take note that the above program also offers observerships called 'mini-fellowships' for a fee - information on this is present on the same link provided above.
The Prestigious Washington University at St. Louis, Missouri, is also known to offer Radiology fellowships to IMGs directly without residencies.
Update: I just heard about a dude getting a direct Cardiovascular Imaging Fellowship at the Cleveland Clinic - ofcourse he had 99/99s and did a Radiology residency from one of the top places in India.
What after completing the fellowship without residency? Can you practice like other 'regular' docs ? Do you still need to do a Residency ?
I fancy imagining the Residency-Fellowship system like a tunnel with two inlets - the Residency entrance and the Fellowship entrance. And this is a tunnel with a difference : After taking the Residency route, you may exit mid-way and get yourself a good job, but if you take the Fellowship entrance, the mid-way exit in this case leads back to your home-country or rarely, some limited license, low-paying jobs in underserved areas. But yes, you may either continue forwards towards the Residency side or get back onto the Fellowship side to do another fellowship.
Why so from the Fellowship entrance ? Because, Almost all physician jobs need you to be 'Board Certified' - or at least 'Board Eligible'. A Fellowship without a residency does not grant you Board Certification - Nor does it grant you Board Eligibility in the specialty.
Here's how the normal route to Board Certification works for IMGs :
Medical School --> USMLE Steps --> ECFMG Certification for IMGs --> Limited / Restricted practice License (Residency) --> Step 3 --> Unrestricted State License --> 'Board Eligible' --> Take Board Exams --> 'Board Certified' --> Fellowship / Sub-specialty training --> Sub-specialty certified
Thus, in the American System, the Physicians who complete all requirements for board certification except the Board examination may be identified as "board-eligible." Do note that the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS) has officially scrapped the term "Board Eligible" - but job advertisements continue to use the term.
If you were to search for specialist jobs in physician career sites or sites like Monster.com, careerbuilder.com, you will read job requirements like these samples I came across:
"Sioux Valley Health System is looking for BC/BE physicians in primary care and various subspecialties to practice in rural and metro practice locations" - BC/BE = Board Certified / Board Eligible
"Lehigh Valley Hospital, a premier academic community hospital in southeastern Pennsylvania seeks a BC/BE oncologist for a superb, expanding group practice"
"Mayo Clinic is expanding its cardiology practice in Jacksonville, Florida, and is seeking board-certified/board-eligible cardiologists in three subspecialties"
" The Department of Radiology at Boston Medical Center has an opening for a board certified breast imaging radiologist."
"American Clinical Resources, ACR, has an excellent opportunity for a Locums Radiologist to help our nation’s military at Oak Harbor Naval Hospital while enjoying the great outdoors in beautiful Washington. Earn 225$/Hour. Requirements - Board Certified or Board Eligible, WA State License, BLS"
"Explore the possibilities at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center, a primary care medical center in Erie, Pennsylvania. Full-time Urologist position is available in our Surgical Care Program.Board certification in Urology or board eligible within four years of residency or fellowship is a requirement for this position."
In short, a residency is pretty much unavoidable if wish to continue staying in the USA and get good academic or other employment positions. The bright side of this is that US-Fellowship trained IMGs may stand a better chance at the corresponding residencies than fresh IMGs without US clinical Experience - often in the same place they did their fellowships at. The dark side of doing a residency after the fellowship, if I dare call it so, is that you might experience a 'boss-reversal' ;-) i.e. The guys who worked 'under' you as residents may become fellows at the same program while you become a resident there.
Take home points:-
1. Direct Fellowships without Residency in USA is possible for IMGs
2. Such positions are best sought by directly contacting fellowship program directors and beginning a dialogue.
3. IMGs must have completed post-graduate medicine / surgery in home-countries.
4. IMGs must have finished USMLE steps and should have obtained ECFMG certification before starting fellowship
5. Job Opportunities in USA are highly limited after fellowships without residency, if any - A residency must still be done to be board certified and eligible for well-paying jobs.
6. It's a great option for IMGs who wish to go back to home countries after the fellowship.
7. Fellowship directors like research and US clinical experience (observerships, externships, etc. ) - try to have that on your resume !
IMGs are known to secure Radiology, Ophthalmology and Orthopedic Fellowship along this route on both J1 and H1 visas (J1s preferred by programs)
Check out this list of Fellows at the University Iowa Health Care Ophthalmology Fellowship programs - you do see some profiles of IMGs who came for direct fellowships
Disclaimer: This topic is wrought by fuzziness, inconsistencies and lack of enough experiences. I may be wrong in some areas and I welcome corrections from readers with first-hand experiences or knowledge. Which also means that the content of this post may change periodically :-)
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Comments on "FELLOWSHIP WITHOUT / BEFORE RESIDENCY : PART 2"
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Digitaldoc, MD said ... (September 11, 2007 6:47 PM) :
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Post Your Comment !Anonymous said ... (December 29, 2006 10:38 AM) :
REALLY A VERY INFORMATIVE REVIEW!
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE J-1 VISA EXTENSION WHICH IS GIVN FOR YEAR OR TWO FOR FELLOWSHIP?
RESIDENCY REQUIRES 3-4 YEARS AFTER WARDS......IS IT POSSIBLE?
SECONDLY IF YOU DO NOT GET THE SAME SPECIALITY IN YOUR RESIDENCY AND WANT TO REPEAT FELLOWSHIP AFTER RESIDENCY........?wILL IT BE EXTENDED FURTHER?
as per my info J-1 is extended only once and not exceeding beyond 7years.........am I correct?
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (December 29, 2006 11:21 AM) :
A J1-visa status is allowed for a total of 7 years in continuity provided the candidate is doing residencies / fellowships.An additional 1 year of extension can be approved under 'exceptional' circumstances. This extension of a year must come approved from ESVP (Exchange Student Visitor Program) and ECFMG. The additional 7-year extension to a prior 7-year J1 wont happen as u say - the candidate HAS to get back to home country OR arrange for J1-waiver jobs BEFORE the fellowship /Residency Ends...
SHall put up more on ways around this in Part 3 of the series.
Manju said ... (December 31, 2006 12:01 PM) :
Hi digital doc...this was very informative.............
What about getting residency in radiology after doing fellowship at the same place.......
Since getting radiology in unimaginable thing in US.......
Anonymous said ... (December 31, 2006 12:02 PM) :
Hi what about the USMLE scores...is that important.......how much is needed...........thank for all the information
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (January 10, 2007 12:51 AM) :
1. Residency after a fellowship may be atleast easier for such IMGs rather than Fresh IMGs...
2. USMLE Scores are always important and they are bound to get more competetive as more IMGs adopt this route.
Anonymous said ... (February 28, 2007 10:31 PM) :
Hi Digital Doc ...
I have done my postgraduation recently from UKRAINE ... in RADIOLOGY ..... I have done my USMLE
Step 1 & 2 and also passed Step 3 ... I have low scores on Step 1& 2 ... do you think it would be better to apply for radiology residency in USA or to apply for Fellowship directly ... I do not have any US clinical experience and would like your advice on this matter ... I do not mind J1 visa or going back to my country after Residency or Fellowship ....
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (March 01, 2007 12:02 AM) :
Hello Ukraine Doc ! No harm in trying for both - though, I would be inclined to believe you have a better chance at direct fellowship - and if going back is what you like, then that;s surely something to explore and pursue
Anonymous said ... (March 07, 2007 4:14 PM) :
Thanks for your valuable advise Digital Doc .... one more thing ... Is there a Radiology association or committe in USA that would evaluate the training of Post graduates in Radiology and allow them to do a Direct Fellowship in Radiology ... if so then would I need to send in my documents to them ...
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (March 10, 2007 3:09 AM) :
I dont know at this moment, but shall ask my pal doing a direct fellowship
Sarika said ... (March 17, 2007 1:19 PM) :
Hi digitaldoc
I have done my MD radiology from India and have 4 years of post MD experince.My husband is soon going to finish his neurosurgery training programe.We both wanted to pursue fellowships in the US for a couple of years and come back to India thereafter.How difficult will it be for both of us to get fellowships there?
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (March 17, 2007 7:12 PM) :
Neurosurgery fellowships may be a very tough nut to crack (very competitive) - but you may have luck with direct radiology fellowships.
shyamsunder said ... (May 06, 2007 2:26 PM) :
hi digidoc....is it true that 4 yrs of continous fellowship position u can give board exams and become board certified.....
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 06, 2007 5:50 PM) :
I shall be putting up stuff on that - the get-around that IMGs use to qualify - but need to confirm it from a pal who is doing a direct fellowship..watch out for this space :-)
viji said ... (May 09, 2007 4:21 PM) :
I AM A IMG.I HAVE DONE MY PG DIPLOMA IN ORTHOPAEDICS WHICH IS A 2 YEAR COURSE WITH TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE.SHALL I TRY FELLOWSHIPS R RESIDENCYIN ORTHOPAEDICS.STEP1 96 WAITING RESULTS FOR STEP 2.HOW TOUGH TO GET AN ORTHO RESIDENCY(I KNOW IT IS TOUGHER) R SHALL I TRY FELLOWSHIPS..PL HELP ME IN IT. IF SO,WHICH UNIV/HOSPITAL PROVIDE ME GOOD CHANCE
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 09, 2007 5:11 PM) :
You can surely try for both simultaneously, though ortho residencies are tough even for the double 99s on USMLE. Read more about Orthopedics Residency for IMGs. Write to as many ortho fellowship Program directors to have an idea on how willing they are to consider your direct fellowship applications - its normally a question of demand and supply ..
Anonymous said ... (May 13, 2007 4:10 PM) :
hi digitol doc,
I have done neurosurgery residensy in india. Now I cleared all three usmle steps,looking forward to apply for neurosurgery fellowships in U.S.A. kindly let me know whether I can apply for regular residency neurosurgery programmes, what are all chances of getting it.
I have B1 visa right now.
thanking you,
kireetipotu.
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 13, 2007 10:59 PM) :
Neuro surgery remains very well paid surgical branch, and pretty competitive as far as the residencies go - your previous neurosurgery residency will surely help - and if you have had good research publications, thats a big plus too.
Yes, you can try direct fellowships too - begin by writing to program directors of fellowship programs about their policy on IMGs with advanced degrees for fellowship acceptance
namrata said ... (May 16, 2007 12:38 PM) :
hi digital doc im currently doin my m.d. internal medicine in india i am interested in pursuing a fellowship in endocrinology hav given my step 1 will be giving step 2 soon do i also need to give csa and step 3? how competetive is this choice of fellowship? please help
Digitaldoc, MD said ... (May 16, 2007 1:26 PM) :
It certainly is not as competitive as cardio, gastro and hem-oncology
Gleeson said ... (June 01, 2007 11:07 AM) :
Hi,
I found your site extremely informative. I am doing my second Orthopedic Fellowship in the Harvard System and will be shortly joining my 3rd one following which I hope to become an attending. My wife is a radiologist in the same system too. I think the information your provide is really pertinent.
Hi Digitaldoc,
Do you know anybody who sneaked into a faculty position after direct-fellowship without residency in Internal Medicine field? I'm thinking of doing it in Oncology. How possible is it?
I know someone who did it in a different competitive specialty in a prestigious University. He did everything in the same university.
Well - as they say - with the right contacts, you can loop around anything LOL
I spoke to a some of people who were either interviewing or secured direct fellowships and they said most places have this arrangement where continuing in the same place for 4 years (probably taking up a vacant relatively low-paid faculty position after 3 years in fellowship) grants you board eligibility and there is no need to do a residency to take the Board exams. of course I may have spoken too soon and need to find official confirmation on this before I put up another post.
HI digitaldoc
I have finished my radiology residency india and want to do fellowship in US. I have done steps I and II with not great scores. Can u give me the list of IMG friendly fellowship links. How difficult or easy to start with J1 visa and get it converted to H1B at a later stage
I don't have a list yet, but know a few places where people interviewed :
- Washington University, St Louis, MO
- University Missouri-Columbia, MO
- University Washington, Seattle, WA
- Cleveland Clinic, Cardiovascular Imaging, OH
I suggest you write a common email to all program inquiring about that - breast imaging, cardiovascular imaging, etc. are less favoured by AMGs and more open to direct fellowships for IMGs.
HI I AM AN IMG FROM INDIA. I HAVE COMPLETED MY MD(ANESTHESIA) IN SEPT'2006. I AM WORKING AS AN ASSISTANT PROFESSOR IN A MEDICAL COLLEGE. I AM GOING TO TAKE UP USMLE EXAMS NEXT YEAR. 1)WILL THERE BE CHANCES OF GETTING A RESIDENCY OR FELLOWSHIP IN ANESTHESIA IN 2009-2010.2)I FINISHED MY MBBS IN 1999. DOES IT MATTER? 3)WORKING IN A MEDICAL COLLEGE- DOES IT PROVIDE ANY ADVANDAGE? 4)WHAT IS THE USMLE SCORE THAT CAN FETCH ME A RESIDENCY. 4)HOW TO PLAN MY USMLE EXAMS SCHEDULE SO THAT I CAN JOIN RESIDENCY IN 2009-10.
Since you have a post graduate clinical degree in anesthesia and are currently in clinical practice, many programs will still consider you, even if medical school graduation was 1999
Anesthesia is highly paid and has gotten pretty competitive since American Medical Graduates have increasingly begun to consider the field. Which means scores in the high 90s in Step 1 and Step 2 CK, along with one or more research publications in scientific journals will be needed to give you a good chance.
For 2009 residency, you will need to apply with step 1 and step 2 CK scores in hand by Sept. 2008. So plan accordingly
Hi Digitaldoc
I am IMG , but did my Orthopedics residency in Canada.
I am interested in a clinical fellowship in UCSF.
Do you think I should have USMLE, ECFMG... to do one year fellowship..
I am not intending to stay in USA after that.
Thanks,,
hi
i found ur site very informative.iam IMG from inia . ill be completing my MD in pharmacology ..i would like to pursue a fellowship in clinical pharmacology in US .will i be eligible for and what will be my future prospects..ill be cpmleting my steps by sept
hi digital doc,
this is a very useful site for all the IMGs.u give a lot of info.
i have an MD in pediatrics from india.i have 3 years of clinical experience after that.can u suggest me if u know of any fellowship programs wich offer direct fellowships without residency?actually, i have been searching for them for last 1 year.any advice will be appreciated.thank you.
Reply 1: clinical fellowships will need USMLEs - research fellowships / visiting professor / teaching fellowships may not
Reply 2 to Jeet: Clinical Pharmacology fellowships are usually offered after completing residency in Internal medicine / pediatrics. So you might have to first do those residencies. Unless some programs are willign to offer direct fellowships (you will need to email each program directly to find out about that - since policies change )
Reply 3: Policies change, new fellowship programs come by and each year direct fellowships given out is more of a function of suppy-demand equation. So you will need to email each and every program that otherwise accepts IMGs into fellowships to find out if they wud consider someone for direct fellowships.
Reply 1: clinical fellowships will need USMLEs - research fellowships / visiting professor / teaching fellowships may not
Reply 2 to Jeet: Clinical Pharmacology fellowships are usually offered after completing residency in Internal medicine / pediatrics. So you might have to first do those residencies. Unless some programs are willign to offer direct fellowships (you will need to email each program directly to find out about that - since policies change )
Reply 3: Policies change, new fellowship programs come by and each year direct fellowships given out is more of a function of suppy-demand equation. So you will need to email each and every program that otherwise accepts IMGs into fellowships to find out if they wud consider someone for direct fellowships.
Hi digitaldoc,
I am an IMG with and MD internal medicine in India.I have been in the UK for the past 4 years and am a registrar(fellow) in Endocrinology.I have finished my Steps 95/97 and am ECFMG certified.Is it possible for me to get a direct fellowship in Endocrinology.Do u know of any places which offer them directly?I would be very grateful for your advice.Many thanks
I have not known people in my contact circle about getting direct fellowships in Endocrine - which does not they do not. Such fellowships, as i said before, are often dynamic decisions based on demand and supply and you will know about them by writing to each and every program director of programs offering endocrine fellowships. It might mean more work - but worth a try :-)
Hi Digitaldoc,
Any pointers to getting fellowship in Anaesthsiology. I am a MD (Anaesthesiology) from India, ECFMG certified and trying for residency here but trying to explore other options. I have a Green card too.
Thanks,
Hi,
You were very informative.
I have finished my internship in India ad would like to know about the different options available to persue my specialisation in endocrinology.Also can u please let me know my chances in dermatology?ill appreciate ur help.
hi! I found your blog very informative. Any idea if it possible to go straight to a US Endocrinology Fellowship program after an Internal Medicine Residency abroad? Is there a list of foreign residency training programs that they recognize? thank you.
Dear Digidoc ,
hi I am an Indian img wanted to apply for residency.Ipassed my MBBS in 2000 then did 2 year diploma in 2006 in anesthesia,now practising as senior resident.now i have cleared stp 1 with 83 and clinical skills.should i apply for residency in anesthesia which is very competitive or should i apply for direct fellowships?can u provide me the list of direct anesthesia residency?
thank you
Direct fellowships are usually standardized positions, they are rather based on supply-demand. So if a program is not sure it will fill up through match, they will be interested and this can change from year to year. SO its best to write to all fellowship programs and enquire for a given year
Dear Digidoc ,
I am Japanese Cardiothoracic surgeon. I finished USMLE Step1&2.And my scores were 91&90.
Can I get a general suregery residensy position in the US?
those are decent scores, since you are already a surgeon that will be helpful. Publications will be an added bonus. definitely apply
HI..AM A IMG...I LiK 2 DO MY FELLOWSHIP IN OPHTHAL..CAN U SEND ME THE LINKS OF THE HOSPITAL OFFERING DIRECT FELLOWSHIP IN OPHTHAL....
hello digitaldoc.....im an indian currrently in my 4 yr mbbs at manipal in nepal.....i hear getting ophthal program for a third world country medical graduate is very very difficult.....i wud very much lik to pursue ophthal only nd nothing else...my father is an ophthalmologist in india......cud u plz explain my chances nd also the usmle score i wud need for this....